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Transcript of gubernatorial recall debate


September 24, 2003

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HUFFINGTON: I will. But the bottom line is that it should never have been on the table. The bottom line is that this is a great demonstration of how broken the system is. And I have a very specific proposal...

BUSTAMANTE: On that we would agree.

HUFFINGTON: ...that I would like you to join me in. Would you help stop or help me stop the construction of the Delano II prison project? That is $600 million -- $600 million would completely make it possible for us to rollback all the tuition fee hikes and have $150 million to spend. So would you be in favor of that?

BUSTAMANTE: Let me tell you, Arianna, you may not understand how the process works.

HUFFINGTON: Oh please. You keep saying that to me and it's getting a little tired.

BUSTAMANTE: Just let me say this so you can understand it for the final time.

HUFFINGTON: You know what? I have been writing about these things, you can go to votearianna.com and see a complete proposal.

BUSTAMANTE: Yes, Arianna.

HUFFINGTON: Before you say anything.

MODERATOR: Cruz, Arianna, Cruz, Arianna, Cruz, Arianna, there are three other candidates.

BUSTAMANTE: There is specific bonds that are let for specific construction projects. If that facility was not built, the taxpayers of the state of California would not save one dime. The bigger issue, and I agree with you, is fully funding education. I absolutely agree with that, and my Tough Love plan, in fact, does that. It provides full funding for Prop. 98 and all our schools.

MODERATOR: We're off topic.

BUSTAMANTE: It closes the hole for community colleges.

MODERATOR: Off topic. You said schools, we're off subject. The subject at hand was a two-part question. Do you think California has a bad business climate and, if you do, what are you going to do about it? Senator McClintock.

McCLINTOCK: Well, of course it does and we've talked about that already. There are basically Four Horsemen of this recession: Workers' compensation, taxation, litigation and regulation. And all four of those have got to be addressed fundamentally. We talked about workers' compensation. We sit right next door to Arizona. The workers' comp costs are one-third of what they are here. Let's just swap the systems. Taxation. We've got to lower the overall rate of taxation, as we saw from the story of Fidelity National leaving California and taking 400 jobs with them. You start that with the abolition of the car tax. In terms of regulation, that's why I introduced the Bureaucracy Reduction and Closure Commission so we can begin weeding out these duplicative bureaucracies and provide that businesses don't have to needlessly respond to multiple agencies every time they want to do something.

MODERATOR: Thank you.

McCLINTOCK: And if I could just say in litigation. We have got to overhaul the tort reform system, the tort system in this state. One of the major initiatives that I will be introducing will be a general measure to restore our civil courts to the simple process of compensating victims of torts and move all the punitive damages into the criminal courts where they belong or at least apply a criminal justice standard to them.

MODERATOR: Thank you, senator. We have two more opinions on this question. Peter Camejo from the Green Party.

CAMEJO: Well, first of all, (citizen) Mike, I want to thank you for the question. But I'll tell you that I think there is a myth here. The biggest problem we're facing is the outbreak of a crime wave. You have the Enrons and the Worldcoms, and why

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